Syrian strike after chemical weapons deployment.

Looks like somebody is finally following up on Obama's bullshit redline. Rarely agree with Trump, but doing it while meeting with the Chinese, sends a message. It appears he can talk and chew gum. Demoting Bannon, another good decision. Everything else is still tbd.

So pissed off right now. We needed to stay the fcuk out of all this.

While I disagree with any type of pro-longed conflict over there, I see this as a strong move. The message was not only for the Syrians. China, Russia, and primarily North Korea have been put on notice that we're not going to put up with their B.S. We'll use diplomacy first and when appropriate but won't hesitate to act if our line in the sand is crossed. Reagan would be proud!

There were russians on the base at the time of the strike

 

 

Hold on to your butts, boys.

Trump is completely devoid of guiding principles. Tillerson earlier this week, Syrians will determine Asshat's fate.

 

Trump spent years stating Syria is not our problem. And now this..

What is the end goal in Syria? Another liberated "democracy"? Fool me twice...

What is the end goal in Syria? Another liberated "democracy"? Fool me twice...

 

Good luck with nation building. America generally gets an F on that subject, post-WW2 being the rare exception.

 

Domestically this will be a short-term win and deflect the endless Russia collusion narrative.

 

Where we go from here, nobody knows.

 

Next up the North Korean People's Utopia.

Open the damn trump thread, people. That way people who want to discuss this stuff can, and those who dont wont have to deal with new threads every time shit jumps off.

 

 

Because shit is gonna keep jumping off

Open the damn trump thread, people. That way people who want to discuss this stuff can, and those who dont wont have to deal with new threads every time shit jumps off.

 

 

Because shit is gonna keep jumping off

 

 

No, this is about Syria/Russia gassing the locals for the 9th time this year and finally a fcuking US response that was years late.

 

Think of this as the American foreign policy debate. Kudos to Trump for doing it, while the Chinese Senior Management were in town. Still thinking a broken clock is right twice a day.

They got rid of Saddam and Khadafy and we are in this mess. Assad is no choir boy,but he is the best choice at the present. Before they started meddling with Syria, all religions were protected in that country, we now have a major disaster.

US does not understand the Middle East and never will, all they want is war so that they can sell arms to both sides. War is big money

There were russians on the base at the time of the strike

 

 

Hold on to your butts, boys.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/the-us-warn...s-official.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/the-us-warn...s-official.html

 

Very interested to see what N Korea plans to do from this point forward. That whole region could literally turn into a war zone if things accelerate down this path.

Seems like just yesterday...

Seems like just yesterday...

 

 

 

This is just not going well at all.

 

Humans are disgusting.

 

 

This is just not going well at all.

 

Humans are disgusting.

 

 

Trump just about gave Assad the green light to do this a couple of weeks back.

Rather surprised by the aforementioned comments. Agreed, we have a horrid middle east track record and Trump has undermined himself in the trust department. And no, I don't particularly want to put out every global hotspot. However, gassing people has been a long standing no-no. Has there been a Syrian policy pivot? You bet. Gassing persons/children has a way of doing just that. Further, I think there is much more at play here than simply Syria, including a response to Russia's pushing further outside it's borders. in regards to influence, land, resources, etc. I don't think this is about repairing Syria as that can most likely only come if the country is split in half, and I'm sure there is a resource at play here, beyond Russia bases.

 

History is a scratched record, every now and then you gotta lift the needle.

 

*disclaimer: no middle east scholar!! Never vacationed in Syria and currently have no plans as such.

<puts on tin foil hat>

 

 

DJT has had a pretty sweet stance on Russia since the early days of his election run; not serving him so well these days with the election rigging and all.

 

Cue Manufactured cold war.

 

Cue friendlier stance on Russia to improve ties between countries. Maybe a little softening on the sanctions?

 

<takes off hat>

 

 

 

My question is... why is/was DJT pushing closer ties with the Russians from day one? Who is benefiting from those friendlier ties besides the Oil and arms interests?

 

 

Seems like after the invasion into Iraq, it's becoming a "who's next" circle jerk.

1. Obama had a plan in place to strike Syria after the gas incident on his watch. First the Brits refused to participate, which would have made it a US only action, and Obama was set on it being an international response. Then the congress voted against action, so nothing was done.

 

2. Compare and contrast with the 12 hour policy flip by DJT. No consensus, just an arbitrary strike.

 

3. The russians were warned in advance. Apparently, personnel and equipment was evacuated from the base in advance of the strike.

 

So, a bunch of rockets, a bit of chest thumping, and what purpose?

Putin benefits from that. Sure hope DJT isn't Putin's bitch. Time will tell.

1. Obama had a plan in place to strike Syria after the gas incident on his watch. First the Brits refused to participate, which would have made it a US only action, and Obama was set on it being an international response. Then the congress voted against action, so nothing was done.

 

2. Compare and contrast with the 12 hour policy flip by DJT. No consensus, just an arbitrary strike.

 

3. The russians were warned in advance. Apparently, personnel and equipment was evacuated from the base in advance of the strike.

 

So, a bunch of rockets, a bit of chest thumping, and what purpose?

 

BHO wouldn't do shit. His "red line" was always a joke, Assad called his bluff. The "international" and "lead from behind" approach is exactly why Syria is the way it is. It's a mess, and needs to be cleaned up. Doesn't mean we need to do the all the cleaning, but now is the time for international "help" from developed nations to help a hand for such a international tragedy.

1. Obama had a plan in place to strike Syria after the gas incident on his watch. First the Brits refused to participate, which would have made it a US only action, and Obama was set on it being an international response. Then the congress voted against action, so nothing was done.

 

2. Compare and contrast with the 12 hour policy flip by DJT. No consensus, just an arbitrary strike.

 

3. The russians were warned in advance. Apparently, personnel and equipment was evacuated from the base in advance of the strike.

 

So, a bunch of rockets, a bit of chest thumping, and what purpose?

 

1. Nobody forced Obama to draw a red line who didn't have the balls to react when it was crossed. BTW where are you getting "Congress voted against action" it is my understanding it was never put to the vote, spineless Congress members on either side of the aisle didn't want to be strapped with another "Iraqi war" vote on their resume.

 

2. DJT has made it clear, no chemical weapons. Not that this will stop Assad from using other inventive means like barrel bombs to kill Syrians en masse.

 

3. Smart, make the point 2 and don't escalate it.

 

The US has no clear policy on Syria, and we definitely need to be out of the nation building business. There are only bad and worse options and doing fcuk all when Assad is regularly gassing his people is one of the worse options. It violates international norms going back to the Treaty of Versailles.

BTW where are you getting "Congress voted against action" it is my understanding it was never put to the vote, nobody wanted to be strapped with another Iraqi war vote on their resume.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/world/mi...east/syria.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/world/mi...east/syria.html

 

 

I know he asked for a vote, it never happened as far as I am aware.

Bad phrasing on my part. Point is, it got nowhere and not for his lack of trying.

Bad phrasing on my part. Point is, it got nowhere and not for his lack of trying.

LOL