derphurf Report post Posted December 9, 2017 https://websinsta.info/tag_P15/ That's one seriously ugly mofo, at least from the pics. Like a contorted and fucked with 720S. Undoubtedly going to annihilate some track records until the Valkyrie and Project One. Rear wing with dual element and some proper endplates, really interesting rear venting, 800 hp and 2600 lbs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SV-N-IT Report post Posted December 9, 2017 wtf, that looks like a kit car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGallardo Report post Posted December 9, 2017 Horrible Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanRo24 Report post Posted December 9, 2017 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted December 9, 2017 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derphurf Report post Posted December 9, 2017 https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co....g?itok=ByKT_OGF Fully active multi-element front wings in the bumper. Very innovative, similar to some time attack front splitter concepts unveiled this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APB Report post Posted December 9, 2017 There is your LT version of 720S. They may deny and say it is a completely different car, but the reality is that it is a stripped out, hardcore 720S underneath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derphurf Report post Posted December 10, 2017 In kind of the same way that the P1 is a hardcore 12C, sure. It's ugly as hell, but once the laptimes are mentioned, it will put every other manufacturer on alert as to whether they want to go to these levels of extremes. At least it sounds pretty nice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisco Report post Posted December 10, 2017 How does a company manage to go from producing one of the most beautiful cars ever - the P1, to this abomination? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derphurf Report post Posted December 10, 2017 Easy, by saying F it to all styling and body surfaces that aren't making downforce The official high res pics look a little better. Can't get used to that bare carbon piece in between the front radiator hood exit. Maybe would look fine in a dark color https://www.autoblog.com/2017/12/09/mclaren...nna-p15-reveal/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbe Report post Posted December 11, 2017 It's like some kind of f** ked up test, how much ugly are you willing to live with in order to be the fastest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
737Drvr Report post Posted December 11, 2017 The P1’s just went up in value. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APB Report post Posted December 11, 2017 Easy, by saying F it to all styling and body surfaces that aren't making downforce The official high res pics look a little better. Can't get used to that bare carbon piece in between the front radiator hood exit. Maybe would look fine in a dark color That's what Aston Martin did, this is just a shameless cash grab by them in the same vein as a Veneno and Centenario are for Lamborghini. Neither high resolution pictures or different specs save it for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamboNutter Report post Posted December 11, 2017 That's what Aston Martin did, this is just a shameless cash grab by them in the same vein as a Veneno and Centenario are for Lamborghini. Neither high resolution pictures or different specs save it for me. To my eyes the Aston Martin Valkyrie is absolutely breath taxingly stunning. Additionally it has a V12 naturally aspirated, and it has more power than it has kg's to drag along !! That is insane. This nasty ugly abomination has a very developed version of the MP4-12C, and it looks like Stevie Wonder designed it. Im sure it will be insanely fast, but you would need to blindfold yourself to walk to and from this car. Oh, and the Veneno (debatable design, but I dig the extremeness of its looks) and Centenario (beautiful !) are just bodykits .... Lamborghini should for once actually build an insane performance hypercar, and not just a stunning poster-car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR Report post Posted December 11, 2017 To my eyes the Aston Martin Valkyrie is absolutely breath taxingly stunning. Additionally it has a V12 naturally aspirated, and it has more power than it has kg's to drag along !! That is insane. This nasty ugly abomination has a very developed version of the MP4-12C, and it looks like Stevie Wonder designed it. Im sure it will be insanely fast, but you would need to blindfold yourself to walk to and from this car. Oh, and the Veneno (debatable design, but I dig the extremeness of its looks) and Centenario (beautiful !) are just bodykits .... Lamborghini should for once actually build an insane performance hypercar, and not just a stunning poster-car. Couldn't have said it better myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derphurf Report post Posted December 12, 2017 To my eyes the Aston Martin Valkyrie is absolutely breath taxingly stunning. Additionally it has a V12 naturally aspirated, and it has more power than it has kg's to drag along !! That is insane. This nasty ugly abomination has a very developed version of the MP4-12C, and it looks like Stevie Wonder designed it. Im sure it will be insanely fast, but you would need to blindfold yourself to walk to and from this car. Oh, and the Veneno (debatable design, but I dig the extremeness of its looks) and Centenario (beautiful !) are just bodykits .... Lamborghini should for once actually build an insane performance hypercar, and not just a stunning poster-car. https://preview2.netcarshow.com/Aston_Marti...rie-2018-ig.jpg Not exactly a looker either. Very cool car, but that insanely tiny chassis, not sure if that's really liveable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank-Goodson Report post Posted December 15, 2017 I don't know about this one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastique999 Report post Posted December 18, 2017 Shit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmtn Report post Posted December 18, 2017 https://preview2.netcarshow.com/Aston_Marti...rie-2018-ig.jpg Not exactly a looker either. Very cool car, but that insanely tiny chassis, not sure if that's really liveable Seems like it is subjective to taste which imho does not even exist. There is only taste or different degrees of lack of taste. But I like Valkyrie, clean sheet design, very unobtrusive surfaces unlike P15 and smart aerodynamics. Front end aero is beyond my full comprehension but rear end with high mounted lateral expansion diffuser with spiral flow creators pointing inwards. A nice design, something new. Also it does not have massive gaps and separetion from bodyline where the doors and cockpit are which is what we can see being wrong in P15. What I really dont get is million different carbon panels littered around car, it makes already too busy design an real eyesore. What Valkyrie has problem is interior design, it lacks major taste with all those horrible square monitors hanging here and there in plain sight. Also like you pointed out it has problem with physically fitting two humans inside, I think the driving position will be tilted to right a lot which is not good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGallardo Report post Posted December 18, 2017 Seems like it is subjective to taste which imho does not even exist. There is only taste or different degrees of lack of taste. But I like Valkyrie, clean sheet design, very unobtrusive surfaces unlike P15 and smart aerodynamics. Front end aero is beyond my full comprehension but rear end with high mounted lateral expansion diffuser with spiral flow creators pointing inwards. A nice design, something new. Also it does not have massive gaps and separetion from bodyline where the doors and cockpit are which is what we can see being wrong in P15. What I really dont get is million different carbon panels littered around car, it makes already too busy design an real eyesore. What Valkyrie has problem is interior design, it lacks major taste with all those horrible square monitors hanging here and there in plain sight. Also like you pointed out it has problem with physically fitting two humans inside, I think the driving position will be tilted to right a lot which is not good thing. While I agree that the Senna is just plain ugly, I don't think it's fair to compare it to the Valkyrie. The Valkyrie is still in the concept and possibly prototype phase while the Senna is essentially production ready. Once they have to start figuring out where all the radiators have to go to cool that big V12 engine and the battery electric stuff, and also how to properly package those things into that tiny chassis you might find that the design is compromised in some way. But yeah, the Senna looks ridiculous, and I'm a huge McLaren fan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL_ Report post Posted December 18, 2017 While I agree that the Senna is just plain ugly, I don't think it's fair to compare it to the Valkyrie. The Valkyrie is still in the concept and possibly prototype phase while the Senna is essentially production ready. Once they have to start figuring out where all the radiators have to go to cool that big V12 engine and the battery electric stuff, and also how to properly package those things into that tiny chassis you might find that the design is compromised in some way. But yeah, the Senna looks ridiculous, and I'm a huge McLaren fan. How the hell did your Bug arrive before your 720s?! LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmtn Report post Posted December 19, 2017 While I agree that the Senna is just plain ugly, I don't think it's fair to compare it to the Valkyrie. The Valkyrie is still in the concept and possibly prototype phase while the Senna is essentially production ready. Once they have to start figuring out where all the radiators have to go to cool that big V12 engine and the battery electric stuff, and also how to properly package those things into that tiny chassis you might find that the design is compromised in some way. But yeah, the Senna looks ridiculous, and I'm a huge McLaren fan. That is very true. Good point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEVIPER Report post Posted December 31, 2017 I have been offered two of these in the last 2 weeks. They are trying to make money on them, but that wont last long. One person said the reason he wanted to pass on his allocation was because it was too................wait for it.................. Track focused So if anybody wants one of these, my guess is you will be able to get one at MSRP pretty soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Villavicencio Report post Posted December 31, 2017 That has to be one of the ugliest hypercars of the last 10 years Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
looney Report post Posted January 1, 2018 That has to be the ugliest hypercar ever Fixed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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