bikeman Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Actually i believe the sustainable fish are grown in holding tanks on farms or hatcheries. Thus no need for boats.... Kevin I'm sure your right but trust me there's not enough fish tanks to feed the people of this country or the world. I saw a program on cable about the big factory ships they use to catch the cod in alaska. They catch fish, process, box, and freeze the fish all on one ship. As soon as the ship gets back to port the fish is on it's way to market, it's an amazing process. If we left it up to the hippies we'd all starve to death. Wait maybe that's what they want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearJACK Report post Posted January 18, 2010 What till you hear what they think of your dog.... http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2042...pet.html?page=1 SHOULD owning a great dane make you as much of an eco-outcast as an SUV driver? Yes it should, say Robert and Brenda Vale, two architects who specialise in sustainable living at Victoria University of Wellington in New Zealand. In their new book, Time to Eat the Dog: The real guide to sustainable living, they compare the ecological footprints of a menagerie of popular pets with those of various other lifestyle choices - and the critters do not fare well. As well as guzzling resources, cats and dogs devastate wildlife populations, spread disease and add to pollution. It is time to take eco-stock of our pets. To measure the ecological paw, claw and fin-prints of the family pet, the Vales analysed the ingredients of common brands of pet food. They calculated, for example, that a medium-sized dog would consume 90 grams of meat and 156 grams of cereals daily in its recommended 300-gram portion of dried dog food. At its pre-dried weight, that equates to 450 grams of fresh meat and 260 grams of cereal. That means that over the course of a year, Fido wolfs down about 164 kilograms of meat and 95 kilograms of cereals. It takes 43.3 square metres of land to generate 1 kilogram of chicken per year - far more for beef and lamb - and 13.4 square metres to generate a kilogram of cereals. So that gives him a footprint of 0.84 hectares. For a big dog such as a German shepherd, the figure is 1.1 hectares. Meanwhile, an SUV - the Vales used a 4.6-litre Toyota Land Cruiser in their comparison - driven a modest 10,000 kilometres a year, uses 55.1 gigajoules, which includes the energy required both to fuel and to build it. One hectare of land can produce approximately 135 gigajoules of energy per year, so the Land Cruiser's eco-footprint is about 0.41 hectares - less than half that of a medium-sized dog. The Vales are not alone in reaching this conclusion. When New Scientist asked John Barrett at the Stockholm Environment Institute in York, UK, to calculate eco-pawprints based on his own data, his figures tallied almost exactly. "Owning a dog really is quite an extravagance, mainly because of the carbon footprint of meat," he says. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpegs13 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 If I burn down Ed Begley and Danny Glover's houses, does that increase my carbon footprint or decrease theirs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfabco Report post Posted January 18, 2010 :lol2: Republic of Kalifornia commie hippies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted January 18, 2010 What till you hear what they think of your dog.... http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2042...pet.html?page=1 SHOULD owning a great dane make you as much of an eco-outcast as an SUV driver? Yes it should, say Robert and Brenda Vale, two architects who specialise in sustainable living at Victoria University of Wellington in New Zealand. In their new book, Time to Eat the Dog: The real guide to sustainable living, they compare the ecological footprints of a menagerie of popular pets with those of various other lifestyle choices - and the critters do not fare well. As well as guzzling resources, cats and dogs devastate wildlife populations, spread disease and add to pollution. It is time to take eco-stock of our pets. To measure the ecological paw, claw and fin-prints of the family pet, the Vales analysed the ingredients of common brands of pet food. They calculated, for example, that a medium-sized dog would consume 90 grams of meat and 156 grams of cereals daily in its recommended 300-gram portion of dried dog food. At its pre-dried weight, that equates to 450 grams of fresh meat and 260 grams of cereal. That means that over the course of a year, Fido wolfs down about 164 kilograms of meat and 95 kilograms of cereals. It takes 43.3 square metres of land to generate 1 kilogram of chicken per year - far more for beef and lamb - and 13.4 square metres to generate a kilogram of cereals. So that gives him a footprint of 0.84 hectares. For a big dog such as a German shepherd, the figure is 1.1 hectares. Meanwhile, an SUV - the Vales used a 4.6-litre Toyota Land Cruiser in their comparison - driven a modest 10,000 kilometres a year, uses 55.1 gigajoules, which includes the energy required both to fuel and to build it. One hectare of land can produce approximately 135 gigajoules of energy per year, so the Land Cruiser's eco-footprint is about 0.41 hectares - less than half that of a medium-sized dog. The Vales are not alone in reaching this conclusion. When New Scientist asked John Barrett at the Stockholm Environment Institute in York, UK, to calculate eco-pawprints based on his own data, his figures tallied almost exactly. "Owning a dog really is quite an extravagance, mainly because of the carbon footprint of meat," he says. That does it..... Im buying a first class ticket to New Zealand, finding these two fruitcakes, and breaking my carbon footprint off in their asses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpegs13 Report post Posted January 19, 2010 That does it..... Im buying a first class ticket to New Zealand, finding these two fruitcakes, and breaking my carbon footprint off in their asses. Take a private jet. Increase the size of your carbon footprint on the way there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinko Report post Posted January 19, 2010 RomanDad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elec Report post Posted January 19, 2010 That does it..... Im buying a first class ticket to New Zealand, finding these two fruitcakes, and breaking my carbon footprint off in their asses. Look at it from the bright side, maybe this will show those fruitcakes that there are things other than your Lambo that are "destroying this planet" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsRCool Report post Posted January 19, 2010 I do not understand this concept of environmental harm and carbon dioxide. Global warming, okay I can understand the idea if we keep pumping massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere, at some point we might start to create some effects on the global climate that otherwise would not happen. The idea that global warming will cause horrible weather, well okay, that's another argument altogether I think (no way to know exactly what will happen if the Earth warms a little bit). But I highly doubt it would mean the end of all life. Plants like carbon! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANG Report post Posted January 19, 2010 fcuking hippy kids are so boring!!! They think the freakin' world revolves around them and their knowledge of some rock formation or some juice that cleans your colon,...most hypocritical dumb asses ever we could sort of spinoff and just rail on hippies if you wanna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsRCool Report post Posted January 19, 2010 fcuking hippy kids are so boring!!! They think the freakin' world revolves around them and their knowledge of some rock formation or some juice that cleans your colon,...most hypocritical dumb asses ever we could sort of spinoff and just rail on hippies if you wanna Don't you have a "hippie"-style haircut if I remember your picture correctly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E7ITE Report post Posted January 19, 2010 Romandad, thanks for making my day Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANG Report post Posted January 19, 2010 Don't you have a "hippie"-style haircut if I remember your picture correctly? ahem...excuse me, I represent the 'Hoff-Helmet' look, NOT hippy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlambo Report post Posted January 19, 2010 we could sort of spinoff and just rail on hippies if you wanna What could possibly go wrong? I mean they really got it together man! I mean laugh out loud man. Really dig it but don't eat the Brown acid. The Brown acid is badddd! I think it getting hotter here! Aren't you getting hotter man??? Yes it's definately getting hotter man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Vroom Report post Posted January 19, 2010 I go to check the goddamned weather report and this is the message I get: fcuk YOU!!!!! I DONT GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT MY MOTHERFUCKING "CARBON FOOTPRINT" YOU MOTHERFUCKING HIPPIES.... JUST TELL ME IF I NEED A GODDAMNED UMBRELLA TODAY! Just for that, Im going to go run the lambo engine for twenty minutes today.... for no other reason than to increase the size of my carbon footprint.... Hey you fcuking hippies.... Youre going to need to eat "Sustainably grown" dog shit for the next 60 meals to compensate for what Im going to do today...... Im going to be the motherfucking SASQUATCH of carbon footprints.... It could be worse, at least your not living with one. Suggestion, take the Lambo to your local Whole Foods store, and let it idle up front, in the fire lane, whilst you run in for a slice of pizza. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/18/science/...ed=1&ref=us Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Report post Posted January 19, 2010 lol @ this thread, great posts. It really is getting out of hand with this "carbon footprint" shit, I haven't felt this much misplaced guilt in my life since Catholic school! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlambo Report post Posted January 19, 2010 You might have a problem conveying your cause if this person is one of your spokes person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2772 Report post Posted January 19, 2010 My god, if my girlfriend or wife acted like the people in that article that it would be the end. Notice how everyone they spoke of in that article that was causing the problem was always the female in the relationship? Unless i missed something or over read it, in that case ignore my point completely... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alto Report post Posted January 19, 2010 Just checked and this plate is available if you live in California Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortis Report post Posted January 19, 2010 Just checked and this plate is available if you live in California please somebody buy that and stick it on a Lambo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alto Report post Posted January 20, 2010 Even better....and available as of today.....but prepare for you car to be "keyed" when you're not around Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_chaos Report post Posted January 20, 2010 That does it..... Im buying a first class ticket to New Zealand, finding these two fruitcakes, and breaking my carbon footprint off in their asses. Make sure you fly the long way round. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts640 Report post Posted January 20, 2010 Make sure you take the Knock Nevis Agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANG Report post Posted January 20, 2010 I met this hippy recently who told me his name was Binzaii or something like that, I said oh yeah, really, he proceeded to tell me his "Cosmic Guide" named him that...I calmly came back with, oh yeah, what was your birth name then, he kinda looked down and sheepishly replied, "Greg" I nearly lol! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted January 20, 2010 You might have a problem conveying your cause if this person is one of your spokes person. I have that fish.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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