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Amen, I own a little plaza and it gets tagged all the time, they even tag the glass by scraping it URGHH! I also never understood why these guys from urban areas want to shit where they live.

 

Get UV film placed on the glass. That way you only have to redo the film every few months instead of changing out glass.

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I disagree with a lot of the comments here.

 

For one, it doesn't say what exactly he was doing. Was he just tagging a dumb name that is ugly, or was he painting something else? Graffitti is not limited to random people writing their names on stuff. It can be much more than that and often is.

 

I'd also say that a lot of street art has significant value. While some view it all as disregard for people's property, some is quite good and does have a message. You shouldn't group random punks that ruin someone's wall with their name with actual artists or people with message. Go to a place like Berlin where there is graffiti and street art all over the place. Sure, some is not good, but a lot is. In fact one of the major sights of Berlin is the East Side Gallery.

 

Or how about this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16076806

 

And even street art without a real message can be quite cool. I've seen really awesome stuff on the sides of random buildings, seemingly hurting no one or affecting any property value. It's not like all street artists go out and spray their name across a shop's front window or door.

 

Lastly, Banksy sure as hell did quite well for himself by being just some anonymous dude doing stuff for no one. :rolleyes: Everyone is quick to denounce come kid tagging their storage unit until it's Banksy or some other famous person.

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That type of graffiti is dumb. However, there are some very artistic graffiti artists who do this for good reasons (their opinion) and actually think that they are contributing to the beauty of the world with their art. I'm not a fan of it and its a destruction of property, just kinda crazy to hear that the best story "you've" enjoyed all day was about a kid climbing a tree and bashing his skull open to do graffiti. Its not THAT criminal.

 

 

 

Whether I paint baby Jesus laying in a manger or a two-storey cock on the front of your home it's all vandalism - destruction of property that's not my own. Seems pretty clear to me and the law agrees. Whether death is a fitting outcome for a vandal is debatable however karma worked that out in this case.

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I own a storage facility. The only thing I've ever learned from graffiti sprayed on my walls is MEGAN IS A CUNT

 

Well we all know she is, but Slowpoke still loves her

 

 

and honestly i'd watch her purported sex video.

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I disagree with a lot of the comments here.

 

For one, it doesn't say what exactly he was doing. Was he just tagging a dumb name that is ugly, or was he painting something else? Graffitti is not limited to random people writing their names on stuff. It can be much more than that and often is.

 

I'd also say that a lot of street art has significant value. While some view it all as disregard for people's property, some is quite good and does have a message. You shouldn't group random punks that ruin someone's wall with their name with actual artists or people with message. Go to a place like Berlin where there is graffiti and street art all over the place. Sure, some is not good, but a lot is. In fact one of the major sights of Berlin is the East Side Gallery.

 

Or how about this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16076806

 

And even street art without a real message can be quite cool. I've seen really awesome stuff on the sides of random buildings, seemingly hurting no one or affecting any property value. It's not like all street artists go out and spray their name across a shop's front window or door.

 

Lastly, Banksy sure as hell did quite well for himself by being just some anonymous dude doing stuff for no one. :rolleyes: Everyone is quick to denounce come kid tagging their storage unit until it's Banksy or some other famous person.

 

Please share what are you smoking. Most of the tags in LA are gangs marking their territory. My former brother in law (who only spent an unbelievable 8 years in prison for murder) told me. We have a building in the mid wilshire district, painters are on speed dial....Now thinking about it, I'm actually wondering if the painting companies are sponsoring this.

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There's a few places that have actually designated areas for people to tag or do grafitti art as they call it. The city actually promotes it....you go pay a fee for a 30 day permit, they assign you a grid, do what you want with it (no gang or porn stuff), and on the 31st day, the city comes by and paints the grid grey. Supposedly it's cut the tagging and vandalism down dramatically.

 

I don't see the point of tagging like Rd pointed out, but if people are gonna do it, the above seems like a step in the right direction, especially if it works. Some of it is actually pretty cool in an artistic sense...but random symbols or phrases just because, well that just Makes no sense like Rd pointed out.

 

My two cents

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First of all, 19 years old is not a "KID"... Hes a fcuking adult. If he has so much time on his hands that he can spend it like this, he should join the fcuking army, and stop being a burden on his fellow citizens...

 

 

I spent the better part of ten years covering up the shit these assholes vandalized....

 

There is nothing redeeming about them.... If they were all thrown in a bonfire,, Id bring marshmellows and gasoline....

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First of all, 19 years old is not a "KID"... Hes a fcuking adult. If he has so much time on his hands that he can spend it like this, he should join the fcuking army, and stop being a burden on his fellow citizens...

 

 

I spent the better part of ten years covering up the shit these assholes vandalized....

 

There is nothing redeeming about them.... If they were all thrown in a bonfire,, Id bring marshmellows and gasoline....

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I'm not defending gang members tagging their name on shit, but I am defending real artists, meaningful expression, talent, and creativity.

 

So this stuff is the work of terrible vandals who deserve the harshest of punishment?

 

If they do it on someone else's property without permission, then there is no difference. It's vandalism and should be punished equally.

 

If you walked out and found an artist airbrushing a pink unicorn on the hood of your car, would you let them finish and congratulate them on a job well done?

 

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So who is worse:

 

Guy who spray paints images on wall in his spare time

Guy who street races Lamborghinis to 150mph on public roads in his spare time

 

If it came down to it, I'd rather my 19 year old son was spray painting walls than street racing Lamborghinis. What about you? Would your rather your son got arrested for spray painting a wall or for doing 150mph on a public road in a Lamborghini? Drain on fellow citizen or danger to fellow citizen?

 

...are you being serious? what about...neither? what about 'productive' instead of 'drain' or 'danger'?

 

i'm an 18 year old...i go to school, have a job, and hang out with friends - why does a kid HAVE to be doing something 'bad' or 'illegal' like spray painting shit or racing cars? How about an art class? sports? studies? spray paint on a canvas or get a job painting murals?

 

i was taught never to disrespect other people's property, and graffiti (no matter how good or bad it is) constitutes that. tagging is a gateway crime - it gets you into shit with real gang members, drugs, guns, stealing, then you're forced to join and it's not so much about the art anymore.

 

paint isn't free - if a kid spends his days spray painting shit everywhere, where do you think he gets the paint from? his hard earned money? nope.

 

i'm sorry, but while the art might be good, if you think that justifies graffiti and vandalism then there is something wrong with that.

 

I'd also say that a lot of street art has significant value. While some view it all as disregard for people's property, some is quite good and does have a message. You shouldn't group random punks that ruin someone's wall with their name with actual artists or people with message.

 

just because it's good doesn't mean its no longer a disregard for people's property...

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You're really stretching it. There is an big difference between spray painting someone's car and spray painting a concrete wall.

 

No, it's exactly.the same thing. At least to me, if it were my car and my wall in question it would be.

 

So on that note, can we come paint art on the front of your house? It's just a wall.

 

I can't even grasp the argument that it is somehow justifiable to deface another persons property without their permission.

 

The bottom line is its property which someone (the owner, or tax payers) has to pay a lot of money to either paint over or have sand blasted off. And I guarantee if anyone spraypainted the front of your house, or even your driveway, you would be (justifiably so) fcuking livid.

 

 

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So who is worse:

 

Guy who spray paints images on wall in his spare time

Guy who street races Lamborghinis to 150mph on public roads in his spare time

At least they guy racing a Lamborghini probably has a job and pay taxes :aiwebs_017:

 

Racing on public roads is just as stupid though.

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...are you being serious? what about...neither? what about 'productive' instead of 'drain' or 'danger'?

 

i'm an 18 year old...i go to school, have a job, and hang out with friends - why does a kid HAVE to be doing something 'bad' or 'illegal' like spray painting shit or racing cars? How about an art class? sports? studies? spray paint on a canvas or get a job painting murals?

 

i was taught never to disrespect other people's property, and graffiti (no matter how good or bad it is) constitutes that. tagging is a gateway crime - it gets you into shit with real gang members, drugs, guns, stealing, then you're forced to join and it's not so much about the art anymore.

 

paint isn't free - if a kid spends his days spray painting shit everywhere, where do you think he gets the paint from? his hard earned money? nope.

 

i'm sorry, but while the art might be good, if you think that justifies graffiti and vandalism then there is something wrong with that.

 

 

 

just because it's good doesn't mean its no longer a disregard for people's property...

 

Quite an impressive and mature response from an 18 year old. Well done young man!

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Brian WTF is wrong with you man? I am certain now that you are quite a disturbed individual, over the years I red all your posts without trying to judge, categorize or even form an opinion, I was just thinking he's different he's individual, most people here abuse you and while I never agreed with it I sometimes saw why they were thinking the way they did, but this, the stuff that you are writing here in this thread is plain and simple stupidity at the highest degree.

 

Do you sometimes read back what you are writing and think, damn did I just write that?

 

Do you really believe that the fact that people that voice their opinions in this thread guilty themselves of certain wrong doings should excuse the wrong doing of the person in question or decrease the severity of his actions?

 

Do you really believe that defacing someone's property without their permission is acceptable?

 

If the answers to the above two questions is anything other than no I'd suggest you get yourself checked out.

 

I don't give a flying f**k about your need to express yourself through art by painting my walls, MY WALLS, if guns were legal here and I caught you tagging my stuff your iron intake would certainly spike.

 

How about, for a change you go to the bank, put your ass on the line, get a loan, get planning permission, spend two years of your life and build YOUR OWN F**KING wall and paint he crap out of that wall until you are blue in the face? Express your creative urges all over your own god damn wall.

 

How is that for a suggestion???

 

As you can tell I have a lot of love for the weasels that go around and cause damage to properties that cost the owners/tax payers millions every year.

We are lucky in a way, here, because the local council free of charge sends a crew to clean up all graffity damage, talking to the guy in charge he said the cost could surpass the million dollars mark per year.New hi-way concrete sound barriers go up scumbags tag them at night, needs to be repainted during the day, night comes gets tagged again, broken windows and the list goes on and on.

 

To those that defend this criminal behavior let me know how it works for you when you actually have some hurt money in the item being defaced by your favorite "artist".

 

The ADULT in question knew full well of the risk involved, this is not some dumb kid that stumbled over this and got in trouble, his actions were premeditated, he decided to vandalise someone's property for his own satisfaction and he prepared for it, went to the paint shop, spent his cash on spray cans, went to he site, claimed a tree, at night, he most likely caused a lot of damage and heartache before so all I can say is:

 

KARMA IS A BITCH!!!

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Brian WTF is wrong with you man?

 

Lots lol. For one thing, arguing for the sake of arguing when he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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You're really stretching it. There is an big difference between spray painting someone's car and spray painting a concrete wall.

 

Not when its on the side of YOUR building!

 

My neighborhood is next to a high school, and we have a concrete wall on the outside. These idiots have been spray painting little things on it for quite some time. Not big at all, but looks like $hit.

 

I would beat the shit out of a kid if I saw him doing it.

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Brian WTF is wrong with you man?

 

Lots lol. For one thing, arguing for the sake of arguing when he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

It's like he has a subconscious compulsion/need to always be contrary. Must be a treat in the real world!

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So who is worse:

 

Guy who spray paints images on wall in his spare time

Guy who street races Lamborghinis to 150mph on public roads in his spare time

 

If it came down to it, I'd rather my 19 year old son was spray painting walls than street racing Lamborghinis. What about you? Would your rather your son got arrested for spray painting a wall or for doing 150mph on a public road in a Lamborghini? Drain on fellow citizen or danger to fellow citizen?

 

 

Hey straw man, you're comparing two unrelated crimes. The relevant discussion is comparing the crime versus not committing the crime. I cannot even believe you are thinking painting god knows what on someone else's property is somehow justifiable. You are consistent though I'll give you that.

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It's like he has a subconscious compulsion/need to always be contrary. Must be a treat in the real world!

 

 

ding ding ding....

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It's like he has a subconscious compulsion/need to always be contrary. Must be a treat in the real world!

 

I can just imagine. Real fcuking joy to live with or deal with.

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If I put my Brian Wilson hat on I can see his point. A lot of people on this board are really conservative in their approach - you do this and you do this in this way only. Almost militant.

 

Even as a mod I struggle to bite my tongue at the stupid shit people post. They make out their shit does not stink.

 

There is an abundance of members that "front" on here. There are a shit load of members that post a crap load of nonsense on topics they really know nothing about and it is frighteningly cringing to read.

A kid with a spray can is not the worst thing in the world, not the best but not the worst. Kid fell out of the tree, well the gene pool got richer but it does not give us the right to gloat.

 

I feel dirty by saying this but I see Brian's point and I kind of agree. If you disagree, look back at your life, ever done something stupid? If you say the answer is no then you are full of shit.

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Capt - Just as a devils advocate here.

 

Done stupid shit? Definitely, hell I still do. But I do it in a way that generally only impacts me personally. If I break my leg on a dirtbike that is my own problem.

 

Have I ever done something where the sole outcome of my actions would be to destroy someone elses property? Absolutely not!

 

I'm not saying he deserved to die, but I don't feel bad for him either.

 

 

To turn this in a positive (not political) direction, it was asked earlier "what causes this?" Well, in my opinion it's kids growing up with no guidance, and no support system that there is a future worth working toward. Parents that split up, kids getting raised by mom who is never home, and they are left to their own devices with no imminent consequences for anything.

 

Sadly, this is what happens when kids don't have dad at home willing to put his foot up their ass at the drop of a hat.

 

Random Question - Does anyone think ROMANDAD's kid would ever in his life even think for a split second that something like this was a good idea?

 

 

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Hey, you ignored by question. I want quotes from all the grumpy old men for my signature.

 

Who is worse?

 

Guy who spray paints images on wall in his spare time

Guy who street races Lamborghinis to 150mph on public roads in his spare time

 

 

 

I don't understand why you keep comparing two crimes.

 

Who is worse?

 

Guy who spray paints images on wall that isn't his in his spare time

Guy who doesn't

 

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