Ag02M5 Report post Posted October 3, 2017 I've talked to a a couple more versed than I, and they speculate a crank style trigger feature. Where every turn gets 4-5 rounds, which matches the audible variances of the shooting pattern. Speculation though as nothing confirmed. Thanks. Just looked that device up. Seems plausible with a high-capacity mag. Makes for a serious death machine and no way you could outlaw such a device as it looks like it would not be too hard to make your own if motivated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan335 Report post Posted October 3, 2017 At the beginning of the video before the taxi moves the shots are clearly coming from two separate locations are they not?! Very close and much further away and then very close again. And not the echoes, there was way too much time in between rounds. I made a very basic interpretation of the taxi driver's path in regards to the sounds in the video and question of two shooters locations. Attached a picture below and I will explain my thoughts. First, the taxi driver start position matched with video to Google street view. She started recording at the tail end of the first volley, catching the echos as the first sounds in the video. The next are loud shots at 0:03-0:04 seconds, followed by the echos matching those shots at 0:06-0:07. The next are "farther" sounds of gunfire at 0:46-0:52 into the video. After that come the loud volley again at 1:08 with echos, then she passed under the cover of the small green topped tunnel. She rolled her window up during the drive through this tunnel. *My explanation is this is the shooter changing vantage points in his room. I do not believe it is indication of two shooters at two locations. My thought process is because the taxi was sitting behind the tower containing the exposed windows. I believe those (0:46-0:52 seconds) came from Vantage 2, and the building itself was a sound barrier. This window point was effectively on the other side of the building from the taxi, making the shots sound farther away. Once he switched to Vantage 1 (1:08) the sound was less obstructed coming out from the corner window so the taxi seemed to be almost directly below it. Sorry if I went overboard with this. I think I'm just still feeling shocked. The videos are so chilling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerplop Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Skip to 2:19 a bumpfire stock allows the stock to slide about half an inch instead of a fixed postion. It uses the recoil from the last round fired to push the rifle backwards and then the person firing pushes forward on the muzzle and it creates an effect where you have the rifle bouncing off the finger. If you get good at it,it creates a full auto effect, but where the rifle and firing pin,trigger etc havent been modified its completely legal a .308 is a heavy round used in big game hunting. 400-600 yards from the Mandalay to the concert venue is less than half of its effective range Wow that AR firing off with the bump fire in that video sounds almost exactly like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMan Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Call me crazy, but could anyone picture this having been done to sabotage the casino? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan335 Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Saw these photos on a few different sites. Combining the first 3 makes one large photo sweep from left to right. Top posted photo is left side, middle, then right side is the bottom photo. Middle photo - are those also magazines stacked next to pillar? Speculation is there is a note written on that pink paper in the last photo. No official news on it, could be nothing. The door to the suite: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerplop Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Clearly there was some rounds exchanged through that door. Judging by the way the wood looks peeled he must have shot through it at whomever was breaching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Those are absolutely mags next to the pillar. No belt fed weapons I'd bet, as the shot cadence changes frequently throughout the event. I'm also going to say the 4th floor video is just a reflection from something and not another shooter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Craws Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Those are absolutely mags next to the pillar. No belt fed weapons I'd bet, as the shot cadence changes frequently throughout the event. I'm also going to say the 4th floor video is just a reflection from something and not another shooter Agreed. I read somewhere it was confirmed as a strobe or emergency light Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnsella Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Anybody else think that girlfriend just happened to be halfway around the world and he wired $100,000 to the Philippines, not a "coincidence"..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diabloking Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Call me crazy, but could anyone picture this having been done to sabotage the casino? That is a possibility. Preliminary info says he has had a lawsuit against a casino. Would like to get info on a motive. Now watch the Pavlovian responses from elected officials calling for more gun regulation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK79 Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Anybody else think that girlfriend just happened to be halfway around the world and he wired $100,000 to the Philippines, not a "coincidence"..... Not a snowball's chance in hell that is a coincidence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDoctor Report post Posted October 3, 2017 DAMN! That guy was ready. Glad his DNA is out of the genepool. Hopefully he has no children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Craws Report post Posted October 3, 2017 I've talked to a a couple more versed than I, and they speculate a crank style trigger feature. Where every turn gets 4-5 rounds, which matches the audible variances of the shooting pattern. Speculation though as nothing confirmed. I’m sure we’ll hear more and it’s probably likely that in addition to there was also a crank style trigger. But here’s a picture of one of the DD rifles on the floor with a very clear bump fire stock on it Rifle on the right. One on the left just has an adjustable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted October 3, 2017 That is a possibility. Preliminary info says he has had a lawsuit against a casino. Would like to get info on a motive. Now watch the Pavlovian responses from elected officials calling for more gun regulation. Lawsuit was against the Cosmo. He lost. Still owes $275 in court fees. He had gambled tens of thousands of dollars in the past few days. I doubt he was trying to ruin a casinos name. He was hell bent on killing and mass casualty. I want to know motive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted October 3, 2017 That is a possibility. Preliminary info says he has had a lawsuit against a casino. Would like to get info on a motive. Now watch the Pavlovian responses from elected officials calling for more gun regulation. The lawsuit was against the cosmopolitan. I’m not 100% sure but I don’t think that’s an mgm property. Having said that. Mgms stock was down 5% yesterday. I still think I hear a belt fed thirty. And. I also hear two guns being fired at the same time in one video. And I don’t think it’s an echo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Clearly there was some rounds exchanged through that door. Judging by the way the wood looks peeled he must have shot through it at whomever was breaching. He shot through the door twice. Hit a hotel security guard and a cop. The swat team then blew the door off the hinges with a breach charge. Those suites have double doors. I stayed in that room a few floors below a few days ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Bumpfire guys (never used one. Go figure). Can you bumpfire a gun while using a tripod??? Doesn’t seem like it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerplop Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Bumpfire guys (never used one. Go figure). Can you bumpfire a gun while using a tripod??? Doesn’t seem like it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Saw this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derphurf Report post Posted October 3, 2017 When I heard the gunfire from the crowd videos, immediately thought it was a 5.56 magazine fed rifle. The sound of 5.56 is very distinct, I've watched hundreds of videos of our guys in Afghanistan firing M4s and it sounds exactly like this. He's also just mag dumping 30-40 rounds and then reloading. With a belt fed, the rate of fire would have been maintained for far longer durations. Doesn't sound at all like a 30 to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted October 3, 2017 Saw this Looks legit. Source? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted October 4, 2017 Saw this Completely clean shaved. No eyebrows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeJarob Report post Posted October 4, 2017 Any info on this? My cousin had the police scanner pulled up all night Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derphurf Report post Posted October 4, 2017 Want to guess were 57 Americans were also killed last month? I’ll give you a hint. It has the strictest hand gun control in the country and should be a liberals wet dream, especially one that doesn’t use social media And where do those guns come from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Craws Report post Posted October 4, 2017 And where do those guns come from? Obtained illegally but I don’t know and don’t care all I care about is the result and the result is that gun control doesn’t work. All it does is take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens and leaves Illegal guns in the hands of the bad guys. So funny the left constantly complains how the police and government can’t be trusted to police with guns yet they want law-abiding citizens to have their guns taken away so only the police are the ones left with them. Leftist say trump is incompetent and can’t be trusted but they want to trust him with taking away guns so he can protect us. Thought he was a facist that would never want an armed populace that could defend themselves from his rule #literallyhitler The cops and military are racist But we should have the guns taken away so when Shooter illegally obtains a gun starts firing it In a gun free zone, Law-abiding citizens can’t be trusted to defend themselves Even though they are law-abiding citizens and Despite murdering and violence already been illegal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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