Mako Report post Posted February 14, 2011 You know seeing how good this thing apparently is I have to question how much involvement McLaren actually had with the SLR. Murray has talked about it more in recent years, saying his relatively small team was constantly countered by MB execs who kept enforcing "foolish" add-ons in the car that they felt were needless and added a significant amount of weight. Overall he's happy with the result, but feels it is abolutely "compromised" versus what it could have been (his words). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porter Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Murray has talked about it more in recent years, saying his relatively small team was constantly countered by MB execs who kept enforcing "foolish" add-ons in the car that they felt were needless and added a significant amount of weight. Overall he's happy with the result, but feels it is abolutely "compromised" versus what it could have been (his words). I believe it 100% man. They should have left him the fcuk alone. The guy knows how to build cars much like Michelangelo kinda understood how to paint. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts640 Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Murray has talked about it more in recent years, saying his relatively small team was constantly countered by MB execs who kept enforcing "foolish" add-ons in the car that they felt were needless and added a significant amount of weight. Overall he's happy with the result, but feels it is abolutely "compromised" versus what it could have been (his words). Mclaren built a Mercedes....not a Mclaren Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jota1995 Report post Posted February 14, 2011 I'm stunned. Some serious numbers. It's hard to imagine Ferrari and Lambo not turning to turbos in the very near future, I just don't see broad flat and high torque numbers coming from nat asp engines. Impressive innovative suspension and brake systems too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGallardo Report post Posted February 14, 2011 I am thinking this is going to be THE car to have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickSimmons Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Ok, looks like it's time to send in the deposit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts640 Report post Posted February 14, 2011 I'm actually pretty impressed by the 20.4 MPG (US) combined rating. This Gal is efficient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickSimmons Report post Posted February 14, 2011 ***picture of McLaren F1 deleted, too wide skippy, resize it.*** LP resizes it in my browser... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Report post Posted February 14, 2011 This is awesome!!! Definitely sounds like the car to have Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted February 14, 2011 lp700 what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Im considering buying one new - this car excites Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Well I am already sold on the car. I just need a dealer to take my deposit so I can get one of the first cars. I might be able to help you with that... PM me.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBOALEX Report post Posted February 14, 2011 LETS ORDER YOUR MP4s NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBOALEX Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Well I am already sold on the car. I just need a dealer to take my deposit so I can get one of the first cars. let me know, pm me or allan, i get you the right guy. thanks alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted February 14, 2011 let me know, pm me or allan, i get you the right guy. thanks alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambornima Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Im curious whether or not it will actually perform as claimed. 0-100 in 3.1 seconds for a RWD car? This will be interesting. "The only real flaw we can find with the MP4-12C is its flawlessness. It's like a child prodigy; generally begotten by hyper-ambitious parents, staggering in its abilities, perfect in its behaviour, but oddly cool and aloof, and difficult to warm to" GTR-syndrome?...."no one understands the emotional side to these machines like Ferrari does, and the MP4-12C, for all its brilliance, serves as a reminder. It’s not unemotional, it sounds great in ‘track’ mode, it steers beautifully and its engineering is intriguing – but it is a car you admire deeply rather than one you sell your family to own" edit: just for comparison's sake here are the times compared to the LP570 as tested by Italian magazine Automobilismo: 12C/Lambo LP570: 0-100 km/h 3.1/3.4 0-200 km/h 8.9/NA 0-400m 10.9@ 216 kph/11.2@207kph 0-1000m 19.6@272 kph/20.2@266kph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
q8ylambo Report post Posted February 14, 2011 this car is a bizarre Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickSimmons Report post Posted February 14, 2011 When will people give it a rest with this soul searching talk? The best performing car doesn't have a human controlling it. You can't have both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickSimmons Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Have the option costs been released yet? If so, link or pdf anyone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peloton25 Report post Posted February 14, 2011 A few more glowing reviews that have not been shared yet: Edmunds - Insideline with a quick video as well: 2012 McLaren MP4-12C First Drive = = = = = = EVO's Chris Harris gets his turn: Their upcoming issue will go much further in depth on the car. New McLaren MP4-12C review, video and picture gallery | evo = = = = = = Steve Suttcliff has his say for Autocar here: McLaren MP4-12C - Road Test First Drive - Autocar.co.uk >8^) ER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peloton25 Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Have the option costs been released yet? If so, link or pdf anyone? Here's the UK pricelist. Might not be the latest and greatest -- I know from their online configurator that availability of some options has changed. Not sure if that is reflected accurately in this document but it is better than nothing for now. >8^) ER MP4_12_pl.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Report post Posted February 14, 2011 Nice Peloton, good links. My favorite line: "And if you are seriously in the market, and you do then go for a proper drive in the 12C, you will be hooked. Instantly. And you’ll never look at the Ferrari 458 or Lamborghini Gallardo in the same light ever again. So don’t say you haven’t been warned." Someone tell Allan to not get too used to farting in that dancing donkey seat...he's not going to be in it very long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_chaos Report post Posted February 14, 2011 McLaren know how to hand out Valentines cards to their competitors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilhelm Report post Posted February 14, 2011 This sounds VERY promising! Wow! I had a feeling this would be like no other car. I don't think it REALLY surprised anyone that it would change the playing field, they are McLaren after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topjay Report post Posted February 14, 2011 I think the options list is ridiculous, i'm up to £60k looking through it, performance aside that cost alone is making the lp700 look like a bargain. Funny how a lot of people are changing there tune, i still think it looks rubbish (well not rubbish but like an R8 vs gallardo looks), their sales people were literally begging for deposits 8 months ago and no one wanted one, now a few quick figures & everything has changed, i think it is overhyped, although undoubtably a great car. They are also making a convertible version of it if anyone is genuinely thinking about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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